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I agree. A lot of thought went into changing the rule from 'top two then the highest scoring' to 'highest scoring then next top two'. Or, if not a lot of thought, a lot of discussion. <BR>
Kerry<BR> <BR>
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:36:42 -0700<BR>From: bkoop@rogers.com<BR>To: inquisition@cfaj.ca<BR>Subject: Re: [CI] scoring system<BR><BR>
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<DIV>As a member of the 9-1 team who would've benefited from a different rule, I must say that I don't feel unfairly treated. </DIV>
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<DIV>It's not a hockey game, it's a different set of questions asked separately 2 teams and the totals added (with the minor exception of challenge round steals). </DIV>
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<DIV>To me , that makes cumulative scoring is more meaningful than it would be in competitive team sports. And you can't play defence in trivia ... or at least it's considered poor form!</DIV>
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<DIV>Letting the top scoring team in also offsets problems of question balance in individual games, at least to some degree. This Monday was a case in point. We defeated the top scoring team by a single point to remain 9-1, while they fell to 7-3. But it was an unusually unbalanced game and we almost certainly would've lost, if asked teh otehr questions, and then both us and Mods would've finished 8-2. Then the issue wouldn't have been noticeable. </DIV>
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<DIV>Brian <BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Greg Ioannou <gregioannou@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Toronto's co-operative quiz league <inquisition@cfaj.ca><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed, March 30, 2011 9:33:34 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CI] scoring system<BR></FONT><BR>Anything can be changed for next season.<BR><BR>A bit of history: originally, the teams making the Final were the top<BR>team in each division, and the best other team, which was decided by<BR>total points scored.<BR><BR>The problem with that was that, in about half the seasons, it meant<BR>that one or more teams would go into the last week or two of the<BR>season needing to LOSE to make it to the Final.<BR><BR>It would go like this:<BR><BR>Team W L T Points<BR><BR>A 8 1 0 600<BR><BR>B 7 1 1 520<BR><BR>C 6 3 0 570<BR><BR>Team C plays Team A in the last week of the season. Team B has an easy<BR>game and will almost certainly win it. Lets assume team B wins its<BR>game and scores 60 points.<BR><BR>If Team C defeats Team A by 70-60:<BR><BR><BR>B 8 1 1 580<BR><BR>A 8 2 0 660<BR><BR>C 7 3 0 640<BR><BR>Team B wins the division and team A gets through on most points.<BR><BR>If Team C loses to Team A by 70-60<BR><BR>A 9 1 0 670<BR><BR>B 8 1 1 580<BR><BR>C 6 3 0 630<BR><BR>Team A wins the division and team C gets through on most points.<BR><BR>Our team was in the "team C" division for three of the last four<BR>seasons under the old system. It feels really wrong playing a game<BR>knowing that you will eliminate yourself by winning.<BR><BR>So we put the "most points" team into the final first, then the best<BR>two other teams.<BR><BR>I could see putting the top two teams in the Torquemada division into<BR>the Final, but in a season like this that punishes the best team (in<BR>this case the Mods, who scored the most points but were on the wrong<BR>side of the table in a couple of games where the questions weren't<BR>very balanced).<BR><BR>Greg<BR><BR>Greg Ioannou<BR>President, Colborne Communications<BR>460 Richmond St West, Suite 401<BR>Toronto, ON M5V 1Y1<BR>416 214 0183 ext 10<BR>www.colcomm.ca<BR><BR><BR><BR>2011/3/30 Shannon Kari <<A href="mailto:shannonkari@rogers.com">shannonkari@rogers.com</A>>:<BR>> -in my view, it just doesn’t make sense for the playoff spots to be decided<BR>> by total points instead<BR>> of wins and losses. The NHL doesn’t go by total goals to determine who is in<BR>> the playoffs.<BR>> Can this be changed for the next season?<BR>><BR>> From: Jim Slotek<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:58 AM<BR>> To: <A href="mailto:inquisition@cfaj.ca">inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [CI] question about hi-tech<BR>><BR>> I've used it as well on my Mac. Very simple.<BR>><BR>>> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 02:38:45 -0400<BR>>> From: <A href="mailto:jeremy@kamper.ca">jeremy@kamper.ca</A><BR>>> To: <A href="mailto:inquisition@cfaj.ca">inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>>> Subject: Re: [CI] question about hi-tech<BR>>><BR>>> Fwiw, I've never had any trouble using Audacity on a Mac.<BR>>><BR>>> On 2011/03/30 12:28 AM, Ed Piwowarczyk wrote:<BR>>> > Hi, Tim!<BR>>> > In doing our audio rounds, we ripped tracks from our own personal CDs<BR>>> > onto our personal laptops or PCs and edited snippets using a free<BR>>> > program called Audacity, downloadable from the Internet. Very easy to<BR>>> > use. However, Audacity will not work with Macs.<BR>>> > Note that the MP3 players the league has won't play Mac-formatted clips.<BR>>> > Clips will have to be MP3 or WAV files. Those were what worked and what<BR>>> > played when we were setting the questions.<BR>>> > Good luck with your question-setting.<BR>>> > Cheers, Ed (Five Guys Named Moe)<BR>>> ><BR>>> > -----Original Message----- From: tim & pat<BR>>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:56 PM<BR>>> > To: <A href="mailto:inquisition@cfaj.ca">inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>>> > Subject: [CI] question about hi-tech<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Hi:<BR>>> ><BR>>> > we, the Mods, are setting Qs for the upcoming season.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Can any of you who have set questions recently and are more familiar<BR>>> > with this interweb highway thing advise on how to get downloadable music<BR>>> > files for the audio round? Did you all just copy from your personal<BR>>> > collection of CDs and downloaded tunes? Is there a reliable way of<BR>>> > getting snippets without paying the 99 cents?<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Advice appreciated.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Thanks,<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Tim<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> > <A href="mailto:patimac@fastmail.fm">patimac@fastmail.fm</A><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> > _______________________________________________<BR>>> > Inquisition mailing list<BR>>> > <A href="mailto:Inquisition@cfaj.ca">Inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>>> > <A href="http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca" target=_blank>http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca</A><BR>>> ><BR>>> > _______________________________________________<BR>>> > Inquisition mailing list<BR>>> > <A href="mailto:Inquisition@cfaj.ca">Inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>>> > <A href="http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca" target=_blank>http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Inquisition mailing list<BR>>> <A href="mailto:Inquisition@cfaj.ca">Inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>>> <A href="http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca" target=_blank>http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca</A><BR>><BR>> ________________________________<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Inquisition mailing list<BR>> <A href="mailto:Inquisition@cfaj.ca">Inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>> <A href="http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca" target=_blank>http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca</A><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Inquisition mailing list<BR>> <A href="mailto:Inquisition@cfaj.ca">Inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR>> <A href="http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca" target=_blank>http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca</A><BR>><BR>><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Inquisition mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Inquisition@cfaj.ca">Inquisition@cfaj.ca</A><BR><A href="http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca" target=_blank>http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca</A><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________ Inquisition mailing list Inquisition@cfaj.ca http://cfaj.ca/mailman/listinfo/inquisition_cfaj.ca </body>
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